Below is an e-mail from somebody that saw my website and then e-mailed an Olympia Kiwanian. The Kiwanian replied, and also complain about being unfairly associated with the OKBR. Also included is my response.

The Olympia Washington Kiwanis members and their friends have cost the Washington State taxpayers over $50 million dollars (so far), because of their willful ignorance of long term, merciless and well known, child abuse that occurred at the Olympia Kiwanis Boys Ranch.

October 2006 note: This Olympia Kiwanis stuff is old news. I've left this information on the web, because I like the thought that someone will say to one of these Kiwanis friends or members: "Grandma, (Grandpa), are you still friends with those Olympia Kiwanians?"

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From: --- davis @email.msn.com
To: manaco@whidbey.net
Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 3:33 PM
Subject: okbc...what else?
just stumbled onto your pages, and it would appear that tom van woerdan was absolutely correct when he said the boys are loved by members of the staff. i did not intend that double entendre, but there it sits. it's all just so sad...
--- davis

From: --- davis @email.msn.com
To: manaco@whidbey.net
Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 3:52 PM
Subject: follow up just sent an e-mail to "the stranger" in seattle regarding your site, and particularly that sam reed is running. should you wish to contact them directly you might try @thestranger.com
best of luck
--- davis

From: --- davis @email.msn.com
To: manaco@whidbey.net
Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 5:56 PM
Subject: Fw: Sam Reed, Wash State Secretary of State Candidate (http://lbloom.net/)
i took up your challenge and asked sam reed what he might know. as it turns out, bob vanschoorl responded, as follows:(ps-there was an additional message i'll send along, as well)

"--- davis" @email.msn.com 10/11/99 02:41PM
dear mr. reed, were you aware of problems at the ok boy's ranch, as the operator of this web site suggests?
curious,
--- davis
north bend, wa.
http://lbloom.net/okreedsecstate.html

From: Bob VanSchoorl @co.thurston.wa.us
To: --- davis @email.msn.com
Date: Monday, October 11, 1999 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: Sam Reed, Wash State Secretary of State Candidate(http://lbloom.net/)
an old dog that won't die. who is this guy? what is his obsession with okbr? way to flush him out - if we can get him in the race maybe we can find out why he is so obsessed. every member is guitly by association - even if the "association" is not real. he sure spends a lot of time on this stuff.

From: --- davis mailto: @email.msn.com
To: manaco@whidbey.net
Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 5:57 PM
Subject: Fw: Sam Reed, Wash State Secretary of State Candidate(http://lbloom.net/)
here's that second message. since then there's been more. mail me back and i'll send those along, too

From: Bob VanSchoorl mailto: @co.thurston.wa.us
To: --- davis
Date: Monday, October 11, 1999 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: Sam Reed, Wash State Secretary of State Candidate(http://lbloom.net/)
I just realized I responded to you instead of Sam. I would be happy to "talk" to you about the Boys Ranch since I was President of the Club when the suits were filed.
Bob Van Schoorl

From: louis a bloom manaco@whidbey.net
To: --- davis @email.msn.com
Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 8:44 PM
Subject: okbr
i've got lots of time and i'm probably obsessive/compulsive. this is a dog that shouldn't die. i recently (this summer) sent for and received from http://www.infopoint.com/scv/orgs/cptc/books.html (Institutional Negligence of Children:The OK Boys Ranch Case. Attorney John Connelly, Jr. and principal psychiatric expert Gilbert Kliman, M.D. Details of how children won compensation of over 35 million dollars from the Kiwanis Club and the State of Washington. Three hour video tape and 100 page handbook.) the information on this tape suprised me, even though i've been getting documents on the case for the last three years. 13 of the okbr kids give video taped depositions about their time at the ranch. they say that they were molested and sadistically abused by many of the staff at the ranch. i thought that it was only child on child abuse, but apparently the staff was heavily involved. i've tried uploading portions of this video to audio files at http://www.lbloom.net/okaudio.html but i don't know if i've got it right yet. if i've uploaded it correctly and if you have realaudio, you should listen to the 29 minute audio that starts out with a Seattle King 5 TV news report from 1992 about the Olympia Kiwanis Boys Ranch, and then has portions of 13 OKBR kids giving a 1996 videotape depositions about their treatment at the OKBR, i found it amazing. if the audio works or doesn't work, i'd like to know. i'm new at this, but i'll keep trying til i get it right. thanks for e-mailing sam reed and/or bob van schoorl. they both work at the thurston county auditors office and are long time Olympia Kiwanis buddies, and long time politicians.
louis bloom

There were many obvious and long-term warnings about the 1970-94 OKBR.

  • DSHS knew since at least 1977.
  • The OKBR staff certainly knew.
  • The abused kids told staff, schools, counselors, police, caseworkers, therapists, ect.., about their abuse at the OKBR, but nobody investigated.
  • Olympia Police Chief Wurner came to an Olympia Kiwanis meeting in 1986 and told the Kiwanis about the troubles at the OKBR. Chief Wurner was ignored. Maybe he should have done more, but he probably wanted to keep his job.
  • It was well know by the Thurston County courts. These kids were constantly in and out of the Thurston County legal system.
  • The OKBR was written about in the Kiwanis Komments newsletters, and the Kiwanis Board Ranch minutes.
  • All the OKBR Board Members had a legal oversight of the OKBR.
  • Were all Olympia Kiwanis Attorneys & Judges and/or Politicians uninformed?
  • It's amazing how blissfully ignorant some people were about the OKBR. You can read about their guiltlessness in some of their Washington State Patrol and Office of Special Investigation statements.
  • Here's Wa St Patrol Olympia Kiwanis member lists of 1987, 1990, 1994
  • Here is a 49 page index of 5,223 pages of documents that the WSP collected about the OKBR. Anybody can order any of those public documents by following the instructions on that page.
  • The OKBR sent kids for weekend visits to child abusers who donated land to the Kiwanis. The Kiwanians sold the land in 1993 for $125,000.
  • Can the Olympian Newspaper claim ignorance?
    manaco@whidbey.net