Don Ernst, OKBR Statement to the Wash. ST. Patrol

The Olympia Washington Kiwanis members and their friends have cost the Washington State taxpayers over $50 million dollars (so far), because of their willful ignorance of long term, merciless and well known, child abuse that occurred at the Olympia Kiwanis Boys Ranch.

October 2006 note: This Olympia Kiwanis stuff is old news. I've left this information on the web, because I like the thought that someone will say to one of these Kiwanis friends or members: "Grandma, (Grandpa), are you still friends with those Olympia Kiwanians?"

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  STATEMENT OF DON ERNST December 13, 1995 95-687
    I am Sergeant Glenn Cramer of the Washington State Patrol, Internal Affairs Section. The date is December 13, 1995. The time is 5:50 p.m. This is a statement of dictation notes from an interview Sergeant Brian Jones and I conducted on December 11, 1995 at 10:30 a.m. We met with Don Ernst who was a Kiwanis Board Member, previous President of Kiwanis Club, and a Board of Directors for OKBR.
     Sgt. Jones and I started the interview by asking Ernst what his role was with the Kiwanis. Ernst said he'd been a member of the Olympia Kiwanis Club for 12 -14 years. It was during the late 80s when he became a member of the Olympia Kiwanis Board of Directors. Approximately 1990 is when he became a member of the OKBR Board of Directors. Later, in 1991 he became the president of the OKBR Board of Directors. Ernst indicated the Board of Directors for the OKBR had bylaws. He knew the bylaws and they were available to all the directors.
    We told him we had information from meeting notes taken at a Kiwanis Club meeting in 1988. These notes indicated that Kiwanis wanted to flex their political muscle concerning an issue involving the OKBR. We asked Ernst if he could tell us what context that notation was made in their meeting notes. He told us he thought this was the time there had been a discussion concerning DSHS's notation with the OKBR concerning the audit. He wasn't familiar with this particular notation in their meeting notes, although he knew there was something going on with DSHS and OKBR concerning the Art Cantrall audit.
    We asked Ernst if he'd ever reviewed the Olympia Police Department investigative report. He said in the Summer of 1992, possibly in July, he attended a meeting when Chief Wurner and Detective Nancy Gassett of the Olympia Police Department were also present. It was during that meeting when he learned of the "supposed report of Nancy Gassett." Ernst felt the police report from the OPD was an over exaggeration of the activities at the OKBR. He said the extent of the activities that were reported by Detective Gassett were unbelievable. He later went on to say that we had to understand the kids at the ranch because they were not sweet innocent kids; they were sexual perverts. Some type of activity at the ranch concerning sexual abuse was to be expected from those type of boys. Ernst said this type of behavior occurs in all facilities where these type of boys live. He told us this kind of behavior was not uncommon with the Department of Corrections for adults. We asked him to explain how he became aware of this knowledge. He told us he'd done work for Department of Corrections. Ernst is an engineer, and indicated that he'd done work at corrections facilities for adults. He went on to tell us that when you talk to these people they seem like very nice, innocent people. However, once you learn what they've done you realize they aren't so nice and innocent.
    Ernst said he did not see the OPD report until later on. We asked him to be more specific as to the time frame. He said he couldn't remember, but he thought it was sometime in October when he'd heard a report was given to Van Woerden. He didn't know what board member the report was given to. He indicated that in the Fall of 1992, he and Bob Van Schoorl went to Gary Tabor's office after they heard the report had surfaced there. We asked him how he knew the OPD report was as the prosecutor's office. He said he was told it was there. We asked him who told him. He said he couldn't remember, but he and Van Schoorl went to talk to Tabor. Tabor talked to them generally about the police investigation concerning the incidents of physical and sexual abuse that were alleged to have occurred in the OPD report. Ernst went on to tell us that what he's read in all the public newspapers, as he characterized, the Daily 'O', the PI, and the repetition of Nancy Gassett's police report, he felt the extent of the activities at the OKBR were unbelievable. He told Sgt. Jones and I that the boys at the ranch were very aware of the system, and felt they were working the system.
    Ernst said they had a board meeting in a church to discuss the situation at the OKBR. We asked when that might have been. He thought it was later Summer and again in early Fall when he attended the meeting. He said maybe late 1992 or early 1993 there may have been another meeting with the OKBR Board of Directors concerning the situation with Van Woerden.
    Ernst went on to tell us that generally he thought Van Woerden was the source of the problem. We asked how he came to that conclusion. He told us that Van Woerden had problems, was very private, he resented anyone knowing much about the boys, and this turned some people off. However, he said Van Woerden did have the boys best interest in mind.
    Sgt. Jones and I asked Ernst if he was familiar with a group called The Federation of Residential Care Providers. He said he knew of this group, we asked him about particulars. He said he felt it was a political lobby group or he presumed it would be. He's received mail from this group, although he couldn't remember what kind. We asked him if he'd ever contacted any legislatures concerning the OKBR. In a bragging tone of voice, he told us that he'd personally contacted a local legislature by the name of Cathy Wolfe. Ernst said he'd talked to her in great length about the problems they were having with DSHS at the OKBR. He also indicated that he'd talked to another legislature, but he couldn't remember her name. He said her husbands name was Tim Malone. Our research showed that Tim Malone was married to a Karen Frasier, a local legislature here in the Olympia area. Also, later research showed, after we'd talked with Ernst, that there was a Catherine Wolfe (same spelling of last name) who was a member of the Kiwanis Club. We then asked Ernst if he was familiar with a group called Northwest Residential Resource, and he said he was not.
    We toId Ernst that we'd read documentation where Van Woerden implied he had influence. We asked him what type of influence Van Woerden would have, and he told us his influence came from being the director of the OKBR. Everyone in the Kiwanis knew him and liked him very well. He felt that might have been his source of influence.
    We told Ernst that we had information from Sue Corwin's 1993 inspection of OKBR concerning an allegation of sexual misconduct by a ----.  We asked him if he was there when Corwin contacted Collett Queener, and he said he was. He told us he was there doing some work on the ranch with Queener. He said Jane Skinner and Bob Denning had planned on coming out there later in the day to go over business about the OKBR. He indicated that Sue Corwin was out there, and described her as an extremely poor, bureaucratic, and a nit picker. He said the OKBR was not a wonderful place, however Corwin was too much of a bureaucratic, nit picker. She'd come out there with out anyone knowing it because she wouldn't make an appointment with the Board of Directors. Corwin was there when Skinner and Denning arrived. They were upset with her and her actions towards Queener, so they told her to get out of there. Ernst went on to tell us that they told her not to come out on her own and not to come out without the knowledge of the board. Ernst said ever since Van Woerden resigned, the Board of Directors has taken a more active role in the day to day operations of the ranch.
    Earlier in our conversation Ernst had told us that he was aware of an audit in 1988. We asked him for more specific information. He told us it appeared that the goal of the audit was to get rid of group homes. It seemed to point in that direction since the number of beds had been decreasing. He felt this was DSHS's way of decreasing the number group home beds.
    We asked Ernst if there was ever a performance evaluation done concerning Van Woerden. He told us there was no formal evaluation of Van Woerden.
    Sgt. Jones and I told Ernst we had information from the early part of 1986 where Chief Wurner had gone to a Kiwanis Club meeting to express his concerns about the calls for service his department was making to the OKBR. We asked him if he was present at that meeting; he said he was. He thought Chief Wurner, who was later chastised by Judge Stilz, was out of line. Then we asked Ernst if he was aware of another OKBR board member who was chastised for his phone call to DSHS about his concerns for what was going on a the OKBR. He was not aware of the incident.  Ernst became defensive, backed his chair up a little, and told Sgt. Jones that the people at the Kiwanis Club were good people trying to do good things.

Below is an e-mail I received from a former Olympia, Washington resident.

From: ~~~~~~~~@aol.com
To: Louis Bloom manaco@whidbey.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 11:34 AM
Subject: OKBR
Just came across your pages and felt the urge to respond... In the early 80's (81-83) I was at the OKBR frequently as a young kid walking to/from school, I became friends with some of the boys. At one point a small boy confided to me that he was being raped by another boy in the home. The abusing boy talked about it openly!
Days later I walked the victim to OPD where we both gave statements. Later that evening I began to receive these incredibly threatening phone calls from a woman employee of the ranch who's name I believe was Paulette at my home. She kept calling over and over screaming at me calling me names. It was horrible. I thought I was helping someone. Nothing came of it. Then all these years later, it all comes out ... one of the boys that I had known there left as a young adult and still couldn't get it together, he eventually killed himself. As an adult now I don't often think back to those times but it still saddens me. All those boys that needed a safe nurturing place to be, and how many of them were better off for having been taken there? It's not about money. It cost these boys their lives, their souls, their trust. Those people who knew, who didn't care, they should feel such shame. Just my opinion.

From: louis a bloom manaco@whidbey.net
To: ~~~~~~~@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: OKBR
thanks for your e-mail. from what i've read, dshs, the olympia police department, and other "authorities" didn't consider child on child rape to be against the law. it was considered "normal experimentation". The "paulette" you mention, may have been Collette Queener who was an assistant director at the OKBR. Collette, OKBR Director Tom Van Woerdan, and OKBR counselor Laura Rambo Russell were ineptly charged by Wa. St. with "criminal mistreatment for failing to stop abuse". The charges were dismissed by Thurston County Judge Daniel Berschauer on technicalities. The lawyer who represented Collette Queener said, (Nov. 14, 1996 Olympian), that it was a "witch hunt", and that " a more innocent person (than Queener) you could not have for a client. She's an ex-nun ..... I don't see how you could view her in an evil or negative light."
I congratulate you for doing the right thing, when all those adults looked the other way. I repeat on most pages that the " OKBR has cost the Washington State taxpayers over $35 million dollars (so far)", because I think most people don't care about the kids involved, but they may care that it has cost them (taxpayers) money.
louis bloom

There were many obvious and long-term warnings about the 1970-94 child abusing Olympia Kiwanis Boys Ranch.

  • DSHS knew since at least 1977.
  • The OKBR staff certainly knew.
  • The abused kids told staff, schools, counselors, police, caseworkers, therapists, ect.., about their abuse at the OKBR, but nobody investigated.
  • Olympia Police Chief Wurner came to an Olympia Kiwanis meeting in 1986 and told the Kiwanis about the troubles at the OKBR. Chief Wurner was ignored. Maybe he should have done more, but he probably wanted to keep his job.
  • It was well know by the Thurston County courts. These kids were constantly in and out of the Thurston County legal system.
  • The OKBR was written about in the Kiwanis Komments newsletters, and the Kiwanis Board Ranch minutes.
  • All the OKBR Board Members had a legal oversight of the OKBR.
  • Were all Olympia Kiwanis Attorneys & Judges and/or Politicians uninformed?
  • It's amazing how blissfully ignorant some people were about the OKBR. You can read about their guiltlessness in some of their Washington State Patrol and Office of Special Investigation statements.
  • Here's Wa St Patrol Olympia Kiwanis member lists of 1987, 1990, 1994
  • Here is a 49 page index of 5,223 pages of documents that the WSP collected about the OKBR. Anybody can order any of those public documents by following the instructions on that page.
  • The OKBR sent kids for weekend visits to child abusers who donated land to the Kiwanis. The Kiwanians sold the land in 1993 for $125,000.
  • Can the Olympian Newspaper claim ignorance?
    manaco@whidbey.net